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My Final Plea for Unity

9/6/2012

12 Comments

 
Much has been made of recent rules changes at the GOP Convention.  Do I oppose these changes?  Oh, that’s too limited.  Truth is, I oppose ANY changes at this time.  This is a time for unity—for reaching out—and my Party leadership has done the precise opposite of what I’ve been pushing behind the scenes.  I’m filled with misery, as misguided strategy threatens to derail a landslide victory.
 
So you won’t hear me defending ANY changes.

But, as one who has given all his heart and strength to unify my beloved Republicans with my cherished Tea Party and Libertarians, I hope I’ve earned one chance—just one—to plead for reason at this time of great strife.  Please, my friends; please hear me.
 
I understand the call for Third Parties right now, but this is the worst time to leave the Republican Party.  The very worst.  If I’ve earned any trust whatsoever, let me offer 3 reasons for my view:  The Trend, The Present Reality, and the Future.
 
1.  THE TREND: 

Why would anyone try to seize power and change rules at this time?  BECAUSE THEY’RE LOSING IT.  The GOP’s dominant trend leads toward a hybrid of Tea Party and Libertarian beliefs—there is no denying this. Not only inevitable, it is near, and by historical measure, rapid.  Even Ron Paul recently said his followers were "becoming the tent.”  I took issue with this, not because there’s no truth in it, but rather because I don’t believe ANY one group is becoming the tent. 
 
Ask several Paul supporters—separately—what they believe.  You’ll receive several different answers.  Hey,  they’re all over the map, AND I LOVE THAT ABOUT THEM. Why?  Because while Paul himself has many distinct views, his followers share only one:  Personal liberty.  They believe in the individual, and as such, they allow widely varying views within their “Revolution.”  This is exactly what Conservatism is supposed to embrace—Individual Freedom versus Collective Control—but the GOP often forgets the beauty of it.  At times, the GOP forgets that we’re supposed to be the Free Marketplace of Ideas, and the Paulites are trying to restore
this.
 
Unfortunately, these young Paulites—whom I adore, by the way—make one major mistake: They seldom extend that openness to those outside their group. Abounding in mistrust, they tend to lash out at anyone who doesn’t instantly support total non-interventionism, legalization of drugs, and so forth.   Instinctively,  THEY LOOK FOR FAULT, NOT WISDOM OR DIVERSITY, IN TRADITIONAL REPUBLICANS. For young Paulites (and some old ones), anyone who dares hold an opposing view is promptly written off as anti-Constitutional or outright evil. Folks, THIS IS NOT THE FREE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS IN ACTION. 
IT IS INSTEAD THE SAME PUNISHING OF DISSENT THEY ALLEGE GOP LEADERSHIP JUST COMMITTED IN TAMPA. Like those party elders they self-righteously oppose, these young Paulites have already learned how to silence opposing voices.  How sad they so quickly become the “insiders”they despise.
 
But here’s the saddest part:  THEY’RE NOT SEEING THE TREND.  They don’t realize they’re winning; that the Party is moving their direction.  Thus, they’re surprised when Party elders make last-gasp maneuvers at a Convention.  Look, when trends occur so rapidly in a major party, the elders will fight back.  That’s true
everywhere, not just in Republican politics.
 
But these rules changes won’t last.  THERE’S NO CHANCE OF IT. The Libertarian/Tea Party trend in the GOP isn’t an adjustment; it’s an avalanche. And avalanches scare people, especially when rudely pushed on elders who spent decades struggling against biased media and schools.  Their emotions were already worn thin.  Today, when the new breed demands to be heard and then shouts others down, they’re not making things any easier.  But as I said, THE TREND IS WHOLLY IN THE NEW BREED’S FAVOR, AND ANY LAST-GASP ACTIONS AGAINST THEM WON’T LAST.
 
Does this mean that everyone in the GOP will soon agree with the Paulites on everything? My goodness, EVEN THE PAULITES DON’T AGREE ON EVERYTHING!  The GOP isn’t just switching sides, but rather opening up to new viewpoints. “Peace through Strength” is being balanced with healthy caution against interventionism.  The war on drugs is coming under scrutiny, and marijuana is being compared to alcohol. 
The GOP now calls for an audit of the Fed, warrants for drone strikes, and reaffirming that Congress—not the President—can declare war.  Bailouts are repented of, Entitlements are being reformed—and that’s just for starters, ladies and gents.
 
But the beauty of the Republican Party is that, rather than just changing stances, we’re once again the Free Marketplace of Ideas.  This requires people to listen and learn, not just debate and conquer. Neither the elders grabbing power in Tampa nor the Paulites doing the same in locales across the nation are the ultimate “tent” here.  Rather, ALL WHO VALUE INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND ARE WILLING TO LISTEN will be the new tent, and a glorious tent it will be.
 
So let me close this section with a guarantee:  I GUARANTEE THAT THE TREND TOWARD A TEA PARTY/LIBERTARIAN HYBRID IS UNSTOPPABLE, AND I WILL PERSONALLY PRESS FOR THIS FREE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS TO ATTAIN DOMINANCE BY 2014.  You heard me. I want the “new breed” valued for restoring individual liberty to the highest Republican virtue, and I also want the “elders” respected for all they’ve done in restraining the Left till now. The “elders” compromised too much, the “new breed” shows too little patience, and neither listens enough, BUT BOTH WILL MAKE US WISER AND BETTER FOR THE NEW, EMERGING REPUBLICAN PARTY.
 
That is my pledge.  I only ask that you stick around and help me bring it about.  Please.
 
2.  THE PRESENT REALITY:  
  
Third Parties can be great.  They expose compromise, restore principles, and in time, can even rise to govern.
 
But not this time.
 
You see, the problem is not with a 3rdParty, but rather with the current Democratic Party.  Put simply, they’re just too unified; too numerous.  Thus, any splitting of their opposition will only assure their victory.  To all considering leaving, your departure could well finish us.
 
I KNOW THAT’S UNFAIR.  I’m sorry. I am so sorry.  But while Conservatives can disagree on how to apply principles, at least we HAVE principles.  Sometimes we fail them, and sometimes we fail each other; we’re just
people, after all.  Sometimes we make poor decisions that divide our ranks.  But please believe WE DO HAVE
PRINCIPLES.  That is why I sacrificed the fellowship of my family to become a Conservative.  I lost everything for principle—for truth.
 
But the Democrats have no such principles dividing them, so they have no group willing to split off over some crisis of conscience.  They have but one goal:  WINNING. And this unifies them.
 
One could say, “All those who follow Romney are just as guilty as those who would follow Ron Paul—or Gary Johnson.  They’re splitting us too.”  Perhaps. If Johnson had a better chance than Romney, I’d happily support him.  In fact, you’ll recall that Romney himself pledged support for any GOP nominee—back when both Paul and Johnson shared the stage.  But now, there isn’t time for Johnson to win, while Romney can.  As unfair as this seems, THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY LEAVING THE REPUBLICANS TO SUPPORT A THIRD PARTY IS OBAMA’S VICTORY.
 
In the end, a protest vote only achieves protest—one that will be forgotten after Election Day.
 
Look at it this way:  WHAT DOES OBAMA WANT?  Does he want us to unify behind his only numerically viable foe, and then continue our Tea Party/Libertarian trend after the election?  Or, does he want us splitting up over bad decisions made during Primaries and Conventions?  WHAT DOES OBAMA WANT?  The answer is obvious.  So if anyone leaves the GOP right now, they can only do so honestly by looking in the mirror and realizing, “I AM DOING WHAT OBAMA WANTS.”
 
My friends, I don’t say this to be nasty.  I say it to be honest.  DUE TO THE UNITY OF THE LEFT, any choice to leave Obama’s only numerically viable foe is a choice to help Obama.  Am I saying that “a vote for Third Party is a vote for Obama”?  No, I’m saying that evil triumphs when good men do nothing.  And come Election Day, protest votes will amount to doing nothing.  That is the cruel, unyielding math of the situation, and I can’t change it.  No one can.

And that, my treasured friends, is our Present Reality.
 
3. THE FUTURE:

I’ve seen all the arguments that supposedly equate Romney/Ryan to Obama/Biden, and I’ve defeated them with ease.  Time here forbids an analysis.  But if you wish to say Romney/Ryan have signed on to things with which you and I disagree, I’m with you.  At times, so are they.  
 
Remember, Romney was SERVING the people of a hard-left state while governing with an 85% Democrat Legislature.  He had 19 vetoes overridden, and he compromised to pass a healthcare plan that looks nothing like what he is advocating nationally—and even then, Massachusetts has no unelected 15-member rationing board. Romney opposed many of its most expensive items, and this compromise pulled back from a Democrat plan that was full universal healthcare.
 
Ryan also has votes he regrets, and has said as much.  But let’s cut to the chase by asking one very simple question: Whether at Bain, fixing the Olympics, or governing Massachusetts, DID MITT ROMNEY EVER MOVE ANY ORGANIZATION TO THE LEFT FROM WHERE IT WAS HEADING WITHOUT HIM?   The answer is an emphatic, “No!” Romney always pushed to the right.
 
But what of Obama?  Has he ever failed to move organizations further to the left?  My goodness, need I even ask?  He was described as the most liberal member of Congress!  Wow!
 
Rather than examine all the ways in which Obama will demolish America with another 4 years—watch “2016” for more  detail—I’ll just peek at one area:  The Supreme Court.
 
When John Roberts made his indefensible decision to spare Obamacare, many people missed the fact that he at least agonized over it.  Meanwhile, four other leftist Justices never gave it a second thought. It can truly be said that, for Justices like Elena Kagan, all arguments presented mean nothing, since these four only seek the most radical leftist direction for America.
 
If Obama wins re-election, this number will rise from 4 to 6.  Seriously, this is very possible.  Can you even imagine what this means?  Six Supreme Court Justices who are 100% advocates?  Imagine full amnesty for all illegals, thus creating a one-party system.  Imagine unlimited voter fraud—not that the Dems will need to after full amnesty. Guns?  You must be kidding.  Imagine an EPA with absolute power over industry.  Imagine churches being punished if they dare disagree with favored lifestyles—gotta stop that “hate speech.”  Imagine all aspects of Obamacare—on steroids.  Imagine many of our rights submitted to the UN.  FOLKS, I’M JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE.  I can’t begin to describe what will happen to freedom of speech.
 
I haven’t space here to discuss the crushing deficit FOR WHICH OBAMA PROPOSES NO SOLUTION.  I haven’t time to discuss Obama’s disastrous energy policies.  I haven’t time to discuss so much of what this man is planning to do to us.  There’s just too much.
 
So I’ll just close with this:
 
My friends, I sympathize greatly with your anger at recent events, but this is NOT just another election.  We can’t just let Romney lose, so we can shout “I told you so!” while America burns. Rome never came back, and neither will we.  We won’t just get it right four years from now.
 
My friends, I want so badly to undo some of what was done, BUT I CAN’T FIX IT IN TWO MONTHS.  I’m too small, and this will take time.
 
I’m begging you to give me that time.  I won’t even try to act proud.  I’m on my knees here.  I’m at your feet, pleading for America’s future.  I don’t care about my pride, your pride, the elders’ pride, Mitt Romney’s pride, or anyone else’s pride.
 
Remember the movie, “Independence Day?”  Remember how everyone had to unite because the threat facing mankind was greater than any of the awful things we had done to each other?  Yes, this situation is different, but the unity I’m requesting is the same.  We need to set aside our differences—even our valid concerns—until the greatest threat is defeated on Election Day. 
 
My friends, America won’t just crash and come back.  If you think it will, you are wrong.  You are terribly, terribly wrong. For our children and their children, we must unite.  Now.  
 
 
Please.

12 Comments
Nancy McKiernan link
9/6/2012 03:06:06 pm

Thank you for this excellent article.

I attended the Republican National Convention as a delegate representing Colorado's 1st Congressional District (CD1). I was a Rick Santorum delegate and voted "I Abstain" at the Convention. The decision for this vote came after considerable research and prayer. I was on Pro-Life and Pro-Gun slates at the County Assembly and took pledges to vote for only Pro-Life and Pro-Gun candidates. In order to keep my word and represent those who elected me, I felt I could not cast my delegate vote for Mitt Romney. Because of Colorado's State GOP rules, the only way for me to not cast my vote for Mitt Romney was to vote "I Abstain". With the newly adopted Republican platform and with pressure from people like me, I am hopeful that Mitt Romney will adhere to the Pro-Life and Pro-Gun stances published on his campaign website.

I am still in shock and dismay over what happened with the Rules changes, etc., and am trying to sort through a lot of mixed emotions. I wonder, with the changes, would someone like me ever have the opportunity to be a delegate to the National Republican Convention again? Was the intention to make it so that I would not?

I have literally given up my life for over 3 years, being involved in the Tea Party movement, trying to educate myself and others, helping to WAKE AMERICA UP. I know no one who dislikes Obama and what he's doing to our country more than I do. When he got elected in 2008, I cried for 2 days and asked myself "How did we, as a country, get to a point where we would elect an America-hating, Marxist/Communist as our president"? I have a lot of answers to that question now. There are many factors that go into this, but one that pertains to what happened with the Rules, is corruption in both parties and too many not standing on principle. Another, I believe, is that we, as a Nation, have moved too far away from God.

I feel like the wind has been taken out of my sails. I feel like a wounded soldier, limping off the battlefield, trying to pick myself back up and get back in the fight; trying to look at the bigger picture, while knowing I was injured, knocked to the ground, and betrayed, by my own people. The movie Last of the Mohicans suddenly comes to mind.

I am trying my best to KEEP THE FAITH and the bigger picture in mind. Your article has been helpful in attaining that goal.

Let us all keep each other and AMERICA in our prayers. Let us hope God has mercy on us and does not give us what we deserve, but what we are all praying for. As mentioned in your article, I don't think our country can survive 4 more years of Obama. If he gets the chance to appoint 4 Supreme Court Judges, I think we're pretty much done. Even without that, I can't imagine the continued damage he will do, if re-elected.

In Freedom & Liberty,

Nancy McKiernan
Founder
Tea Party Brewing (www.TeaPartyBrewing.com)
Keep The Faith -TT (www.KeepTheFaith-TT.com)

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Andy
9/7/2012 04:01:02 pm

Thank you Nancy.

Your passion, insight, and hard efforts are playing a huge role in reviving a Republican Party that had lost its way.

So often, we all get frustrated with the GOP. "It isn't just like me--right now!" "It's not doing what I want--right now!" "I want all corruption and compromise removed--right now!" Personally, I have no problem at all with people getting angry, as I believe anger is needed sometimes to shock those who have grown far too comfortable in their positions.

But anger must be tempered with patience, and Nancy, you have shown that with your last three years of striving toward doing what's best for America. You've spoken out, you've attacked when necessary, you've given countless hours, and in the end, you'll do what is right for this election. But about 2 seconds after Mitt Romney replaces Barack Obama, you will immediately resume keeping the feet of our politicians--not just Romney, but all of them--to the fire. If Mitt thinks he can relax once he crosses the finish line, he's in for a rude awakening--and I will be right next to you, preaching principle.

Actually, wait 2 weeks instead of 2 seconds--you need a break :)

Nancy, here's my message: You aren't outside the party. Rather you are everything that is RIGHT with the party! We don't need less of your voice, WE NEED MORE! This is why I get so upset with Tea Partiers and Paul supporters who will only participate for the moment, and then depart when they don't see change happening fast enough. I LOVE BOTH GROUPS, AND I BELIEVE WE NEED MORE OF THEM, NOT LESS, IN THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR PARTY.

Again, thank you for your kind comments, Nancy, and thanks even more for all you do. I'll say it again: You are everything that is RIGHT with the party.

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Santorum4Colorado
9/7/2012 03:45:31 am

What is the name of the Indian (continent) looking guy who pledged Santorum. How was he able to morally reconcile his vote for Romney?

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Santorum4Colorado
9/7/2012 03:48:41 am

"... a protest vote only achieves protest—one that will be forgotten after Election Day."

If the Gary Johnson ticket, which will be on the ballot in all 50 states (unless Romney's lawyers are successful in stripping his ballot status), receives 5% of the vote, his 3rd party will receive FEC funding for the next election. THIS will provide an anchor to stop the continual left drift of the Republicans. THIS will bring in more competition and better candidates. THIS is the path forward in the voting booth, while continuing to work within the Republican party to stop their liberal tendencies.


"... Romney was SERVING the people of a hard-left state ..."

Time-worn apologies don't stand up to the fact that Romney violated his OATH OF OFFICE to protect the Constitution. The Constitution protects the people from government grabbing guns, and Romney violated his oath of office when he signed the gun-grab bill into law. Instead of violating his oath of office, Romney should have vetoed (which may or may not have been overridden). There is no apologizing for an oath-breaking gun-grabber.


The fear-mongering about Supreme Court justices should have ended with Robert's support of Obamacare. It's clear even alleged conservatives on the Supreme Court become liberals.
Stop the fear-mongering about the Supreme Court, and help us get Senators and Presidents who respect their oath of office.


"My friends, America won’t just crash and come back. If you think it will, you are wrong."
History shows America reinvigorates and comes back stronger after a crash. We need to work through the 2007/2008 economic crash by clearing out the debt and prosecuting the banksters. Romney will do neither, which will only extends the misery.

Do we want four years of a known liberal President during which we can set up some real conservative candidates, or do we want eight years of a liberal flip-flopper who receives just as much money from the banksters as the current President? Eight years of flip-flopping liberalism from Romney, who refused to serve in the military, is not what I want for a Commander In Chief of the military.

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Andy
9/7/2012 11:36:49 am

First, you say you represent “Santorum4Colorado.” Is this the same Santorum who just spoke so eloquently of the need to elect Mitt Romney? Because, you clearly don’t represent him at all. Rick Santorum is a man of vision who agrees with my concerns, not your views.

I noticed, however, that you seem to have little concern over Obama being re-elected. Well, that’s perfectly understandable, since we certainly wouldn’t want—as you say—a liberal like Romney in the White House. Thank you so much for your tireless efforts in helping us avoid that. You’re a true patriot.

Still, since you disagree so strenuously with Rick Santorum, have you considered changing your title? Just a thought. Perhaps something using “Forward!” or “4 More Years!” would do the trick.

Now, about your belief that America can “come back” because we’ve done so before, you are insinuating that America is facing similar challenges to what it faced before.

You could not possibly be more wrong. Not by any measure.

1. Never before has America faced over $130 Trillion in unfunded liabilities.

2. Never before has America had 20 million illegal aliens who would all vote for one party if granted amnesty. This would immediately reduce the GOP, Tea Party, Libertarians and Christian Right to being nothing more than helpless protest movements. WE SIMPLY WOULDN’T HAVE THE NUMBERS EVER AGAIN.

3. Never before has the Supreme Court been one vote away from pure Marxist rule. The liberal courts of the past never compared to what we’re about to get. What you call “fear-mongering” is instead just simple truth—these are lifetime appointments, and their numbers will be insurmountable AND COMPARATIVELY YOUNG. Your naïve views would sentence us to several decades of a far-leftist court.

4. Never before has the right to bear arms been one vote from decimation.

5. Never before have so many Americans received government aid during peace time. We simply have an unprecedented number of takers versus makers.

6. Never before has the Democratic Party—which our division would place into complete control—OPENLY OPPOSED GOD AND JERUSALEM ON THEIR CONVENTION FLOOR.

7. During such crises as the Civil War and Depression, America was not completely undermined by an education system that openly favors Marxist and atheist thought. Thus, when we’ve come back from previous crises, we did so with a completely different set of societal values.

Look, I could go on, but the point is simple: We can’t just come back from a 2nd Obama term. America’s on the edge of a cliff it has never seen before. As I previously wrote, Rome never came back, and neither will we, and reliance upon feel-good phrases like “we’ve come back before” won’t help us.

Realism is what helps us. We must honestly look at the state of our nation, not the state of our feel-good rhetoric. Our children deserve no less than complete honesty about what faces this country.

Or, to put all this in terms you would appreciate, we must all look “Forward!”

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Santorum4Colorado
9/24/2012 12:21:56 pm

Care to comment on these two? Violating his oath of office is a big issue for me. And the Supreme Court issue became a non-starter this summer - it no longer induces fearful voting.

"Time-worn apologies don't stand up to the fact that Romney violated his OATH OF OFFICE to protect the Constitution."

"The fear-mongering about Supreme Court justices should have ended with Robert's support of Obamacare."

Andy
9/24/2012 02:59:00 pm

I'm happy to respond--even though you haven't countered any of my arguments. But I'll respond, nonetheless.

First, I don't claim to know in any great detail Mitt's actions regarding guns in Massachusetts. I know he pushed some limits. What I DO know is that Mitt spoke at the NRA this summer and was enthusiastically embraced. The applause was loud and authentic. You obviously feel that any limitations on gun ownership are anti-Constitutional. I would probably agree, though we'd have to talk more on that. At any rate, many people disagree with us, and branding them all "Constitution-haters" or whatever doesn't really fly.

Ultimately, there's no question that Romney is far, far better for gun owners than Obama--hence, the NRA's warm reception. Romney has pushed for some limits while making deals with an 85% Democrat Legislature, and he is pushing for no limits nationally in this campaign. Obama, on the other hand, is appointing judge after judge who want private gun ownership destroyed, and he even engaged in gun-running in Mexico to help bring this about. Enough said.

By the way, Santorum would agree with everything I just wrote--though I'm getting the feeling that Santorum means nothing to you whatsoever.

Now, about Roberts. I agree that some judges appointed by Republicans have turned liberal, and Roberts appears to be one of them. However, we must remember that ALL judges currently being appointed by Democrats are not only liberal, but wild-eyed liberal activists of the first order. While Roberts agonized over making a terrible decision, there were 4 justices who made it without a second thought, since their only goal is the removal of freedom at every turn.

So, would Romney appoint better judges than Sotomayor and Kagan? Absolutely. So would Paul. So would Johnson. Obama has appointed two of the most rabidly leftist justices in the history of the Supreme Court, and adding a couple more will demolish your gun rights--among many other things.

Now, about your use of the term, "fear-mongering." It is inaccurate, as I am only commenting on the numbers at hand and drawing conclusions. Just because those conclusions demonstrate the dangers of allowing Obama's re-election, that doesn't mean that I'm trying to "scare" anyone.

You see, I can't help it if obvious conclusions (like the fact that a divided Conservatism will guarantee Obama's re-election, or the fact that Obama's judicial appointees are horrifying) are scary. Facts are facts. Why would I avoid them to make you feel less "fear-mongered," or whatever? That makes no sense. I'll just comment on what I see.

Now, I have addressed your points while you ignored all of mine. I should hope that would be fair enough for you.

Nancy McKiernan link
9/7/2012 04:45:02 am

I think the person you are thinking of is Anil Mathai. He was the other Santorum delegate who voted "I (respectfully) Abstain".

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Nancy Liberty
9/7/2012 09:37:49 am

Don't use that old line "a vote for other than Romney is a vote for Obama". The GOP made their bed of corruption, let them lie in it. They lied, cheated, stole MUCH from January all the way through Tampa. You cannot blame obama winning on that line! Ron Paul is the only one who could beat Obamney er I mean Obummer. Besides, it's all a charade:

Don't be stuck in the brainwashed Left vs Right Matrix. Presidents are CHOSEN by the Ruling Elite. The jokes on us. They brainwashed Americans into believing they have a choice between the Right and the Left...when they are actually CREATED for Americans
to fight over a party vs TRUTH. Then Americans pass down this brainwashed ideology down from generation to generation. Both parties work for the ruling elite, not Americans. Break free from the Matrix.

We know how Obama is...how about Romney:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/40-points-that-prove-that-barack-obama-and-mitt-romney-are-exactly-the-same

http://youtu.be/BLWnB9FGmWE
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Paul Ryan's record (quite a few unconstitutional votes):
Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)

Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)

Paul Ryan on Education
Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, including:
-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)

Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)

Paul Ryan on War and Intervention Abroad
-Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)

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Why the Patriot Act is unconstitutional (Paul Ryan voted to make this permanent):
http://www.scn.org/ccapa/pa-vs-const.html
Judge Napolitano 7 min: http://youtu.be/kNRSs6LsGeI

Why the NDAA is unconstitutional (Romney said he would vote for the NDAA):
Judge Napolitano 11 min: http://youtu.be/o8ScOMGki9s
Judge Napolitano 28 min: http://youtu.be/us4lcKPoTkk (with Rep. Amash)
Fox News 4 min: http://youtu.be/n0RpWnbkxSg
Judge Napolitano 4:29 min: http://youtu.be/L_z6l5UWSow
Judge Napolitano 2:53 min: http://youtu.be/aBWOjpZcduk
Judge Napolitano 5 min: http://youtu.be/ltaLMBDFDIU
more good stuff (watch the above shorter ones if time is crunched)
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/category/allndaa/ndaa-articles/
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/category/allndaa/ndaa-videos/

The one and only who could beat obamney, the ONLY HONORABLE congressman in the US who had a strong following: http://youtu.be/w4vnCwM9cIg

How can you want Romney as POTUS - he lied, cheated and stole this election not just from Ron Paul but the others too. We found evidence for it! I don't!

These prove the elections are all rigged and until we stop voting for any evil and ramming any unconstitutional candidates down the people's throats this country will continue in evil:
Computer Programmer Clinton Curtis testifying about how he was paid to rig the votes:
http://youtu.be/rXTasakdQbc
9 Minute excerpt from the critically acclaimed HBO documentary Hacking Democracy:
http://youtu.be/N4Xa2hfXkU4
Hacking Democracy full length:
http://youtu.be/rVTXbARGXso


I will take a REVOLUTION before I vote for ANY EVIL!
SHAME ON ALL GOP CHAIRMEN AND OTHERS IN THE GOP WHO RAMMED EVIL RMONEY DOWN THE PEOPLE'S THROATS AND COMMITTED FRAUD, CHEATING AND CORRUPTION AT THE

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Andy
9/7/2012 04:25:00 pm

For starters, you and I actually share many beliefs, and I also feel either Ron Paul or Gary Johnson would make great presidents.

I did not use the line, "a vote for other than Romney is a vote for Obama"--and for good reason: I don't believe it. What I do believe, however, is math. And the mathematical reality is that, as much as I love the Libertarian Party, THE DEMOCRATS ARE SIMPLY TOO NUMEROUS AND UNITED FOR THOSE OPPOSING THEM TO DEFEAT THEM WHILE DIVIDED.

That is simply a fact. Worse yet, that fact will become much worse if Obama receives a 2nd term, along with all the "flexibility" he'll have when he doesn't face the voters anymore. If he wins, he WILL achieve full amnesty for 20 million (maybe many more) new Democrat voters, and that means that any new Libertarian revolution will be hopelessly swamped under by unmatchable numbers for several decades to come.

That is reality. I don't know how to convince you of this, but I REALLY WISH THIS WASN'T THE WAY IT IS. I WISH WE WEREN'T BETWEEN SUCH A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE RIGHT NOW. Ron Paul has so many great things to say. No one has alerted Americans to the crushing debt we face like he has. No one has shown us the foolishness of playing world cop like he has. No one has called Americans back to the Constitution like he has. He's a great man, and so is Gary Johnson. BUT NONE OF THAT CHANGES THE CURRENT SITUATION. If Obama wins, any notion of "we'll just come back to fight another day" will be mathematically impossible. Again, I REALLY WISH THIS WASN'T THE CASE.

As you know, I've already stated that I opposed the rules changes, and I have no intention of letting bad policy stand going forward Now, since you've posted the same talking point lists that I see on many blogs when discussing unity with Paul supporters, I know that you are absolutely committed to Romney's defeat. So be it. I'll never convince you.

But I do want you to know this: If by some miracle Mitt Romney still wins despite this division in Obama's opposition, I WILL PRESS ON WITH EVERY OUNCE OF MY STRENGTH TO HAVE YOUR IDEALS DISCUSSED AND VALUED IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. Do you and I agree on everything? Of course not! But I don't believe you are requiring complete agreement, but rather, open discussion and honoring of principle.

As I wrote to Nancy McKiernan, I believe we are stronger WITH your views and perspectives than without. I'm sorry you won't work with us in this election, and I hope we can somehow win anyway, so that America will have a future. If we win, I'll never stop calling for your voice to be heard and heeded.

You're just too valuable to be reduced to a mere protest voice in a single-party future.

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Santorum4Colorado
9/24/2012 12:24:24 pm

We have been told "this is the most important election in our history" forever. We no longer believe the fear mongers who try to scare us into voting for the establishment big government Republicans.

"And the mathematical reality is that, as much as I love the Libertarian Party ..."

Then you will vote Libertarian to help them get 5%. If they do so, they will be a counterweight to the two party duopoly. Will you do so to help break the duopoly?

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Andy
9/24/2012 03:18:29 pm

You're incorrect again.

Yes, I love the Libertarian Party. It upholds many good positions; positions for which I have advocated. And in and of itself, I'd have no problem whatsoever with the Libertarian Party achieving the national status you describe.

But the Libertarian Party isn't the problem here--just as I have been saying. The Democratic Party is the problem. As I stated before, it is simply too numerous--and becoming more so--for your 3rd Party to compete. This will be true for decades--probably forever. In the meantime, your 3rd Party can only mathematically succeed in one goal: The dividing of opposition to the Democratic Party, and with it, the firm establishment of the Democrats as all-powerful in our system.

The numbers are what they are. The Democrats are far, far, far too large for the Libertarians to do anything but cement the Democrats' power. That is the issue. If it weren't for that fact, I'd have no problem at all with helping the Libertarians reach 5%.

But I have a better plan: Why not work together as a Conservative Coalition? Rather than hating and hating and blaming and blaming, why not listen to each other and build better platforms? If you really followed Santorum (which I don't believe for a second), you'd love this idea. I think there should be several districts in Colorado where ONLY the Libertarian candidate runs against the Democrat--with full voting and financial support from Republicans. We should work together while maintaining our separate identities, since I don't think it would be fair to demand that Libertarians just leave what they've built and become Republicans. BUT IF WE DON'T WORK TOGETHER, WE'LL FAIL APART. That's the numerical reality.

So, I want to empower the Libertarians and give them a seat at the table RIGHT NOW, not several decades in a future that is by no means certain. You only want to divide the anti-Democrat vote because you are angry (and perhaps because you are actually supporting the Democrats) while I want to unite us without forcing everyone to be like me.

Ultimately, I don't know your actual goals, since the ones you've stated would achieve nothing but Democrat dominance. I tend to look more at the results of someone's proposals, not their stated intent. Simply put, if more people do what you want, Obama wins, and the Supreme Court eliminates many freedoms you claim to support. It just doesn't make any sense.

And because it makes no sense, I have no idea if you even believe what you're selling. But I do know what I'm selling, which is a united Conservatism. Somehow, I don't think you want this. In fact, it's becoming more and more likely that you want the opposite.

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